28 August 2012

Adoration and Divine Shortbread

Yesterday for TOB we went for adoration.  It was in this beautiful adoration chapel and the traffic was amazing, so many people came. We generally have guided adoration, which sometimes grates when all you want is silence but because we were visiting an already established adoration hour silence ruled….and I couldn't deal. I was just so tired, my mind kept wandering and then I decided to give up trying.
At first I people watched, this man had his arms up in adoration the whole time and his lips moved in silent fervent prayer, this elderly lady came in with a cushion to sit on, showing she was going to be there a while, M-moo knelt in the aisle as usual and so did this man behind her and they were so close to the ground as to be almost prostrate, a sign of submission, that in itself was beautiful I became filled with awe. Because my mind was tired I then decided to just be a part of this body of Christ and help offer up their prayers, whatever they were; to just be and realise that He knows my needs even when I don't; to just be and worship with my posture and by being there no matter how distracted; and just be and rest in His presence.
When I realised that I was in danger of falling asleep I began to read and pray prayers from Pure Faith and came across a novena by the “Prayers when in the presence of the Blessed sacrament”. As I prayed this novena there was a place to put in my intention and marriage just popped into my head. I lately had not been praying fervently for marriage but yesterday it felt just right. After adoration we all migrated to the hall where a TOB session was in progress so we sat in as they ended and participated in the wrap-up and it was amazing, the insights people have, the thirst for truth the openness… and to be a part of it all wow. Then afterwards everyone mingled… I can’t remember the number of times I said we had to go because honestly there were people to see and chat to and fellowship with, whilst we ate the most amazing desert which MA told me it’s called 1 000 000 shortbread… and I loved the name. It reminded me of the sweetness of the Lord, the richness of His mercies and of a recent reading, “Taste and see the goodness of the Lord” well in His creations He sure is sweet, in adoration He is sweet enough to let me be,  and in the rest I will trust it will be just as decadent. Now to get ingredients for some divine shortbread!!!
Coincidentally MA felt led to pray for marriage for us all as well during adoration Smile Oh well…
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30 July 2012

TOB and Sherry Turkle’s “Connected, but alone?”

After a long time blogging offline aka journalling, I am back… the break was mainly because I am lazy to type and I have a lot of posts to edit... from by notebooks... so anyone willing to type for me? I have decided that I should just post anyway and maybe those posts in my notes will one day grace this page… and ironically the topic is one that addresses blogging in a way.

BP sent an email today to the TOB group, thanks for the heads up, of a TED talk by psychologist Sherry Turkle on how we are ‘Alone together’ and he mentioned how technology has made living out TOB that much more difficult. A lot of what she said hit home, especially the bits on getting an immediate audience, and the feeling that you are being heard… all us attention seekers so get that, hence the irony that I had to write about this on my blog. Here is the vid he shared.

Sherry Turkle–Connected but alone?

The video brought home the need for self actualisation, how we are created for relationship, and how so many people can feel so disconnected because of the way our culture has evolved, but as she said we need to learn to be alone so we can have real conversation, real friendship, and develop the virtues for friendship; tech is not bad we just need to be aware of what it does in our lives. At TOB on Mondays we have begun to go through Men, women and the Mystery of Love by Edward Sri using the DVD’s and we touched on virtuous friendship and this just brought home what I have been reflecting on the  past week, that I have been letting my friendships slack.

According to Aristotle “A virtuous friendship is based on aspects of selflessness and equality between friends. First, one must do good towards a friend purely for the sake of the friend. There is no other desired outcome but for the friend's happiness. Next, one desires the friend's existence purely for the friend's sake and not for reasons of utility, pleasure, or the like. One must also spend time with the friend without ulterior motives of gaining something in return. In addition, one must be in accord with his friend, meaning they both desire the same things and can agree on how to go about achieving them. For instance, "..a city is said to be in concord when [its citizens] agree on what is advantageous, make the same decision, and act on their common resolution." (1667a 27-29) Finally, one must be empathetic to his friend's joys and sorrows, equally sharing in the burden of these emotions……


He argues that each aspect of a virtuous friendship directly correlates to a virtuous person's relationship to himself……


The virtuous person, by Aristotle's definition, is one who first desires and works for his own survival and wishes to do well for himself. He also spends time alone with himself……


Aristotle summarizes these points by saying, "…one is a friend to himself most of all. Hence he should also love himself most of all," (1168b 9-10) and "These are features [of a friendship] most of all of one's relation to oneself; and so too are all the other defining features of a friend, since we have said that all the features of friendship extend from oneself to others."” [ht voice/yahoo]

Are we comfortable in ourselves? Are we ‘okay’ being alone? Do we ever allow time for solitude? Do we love ourselves, does todays loneliness stem mostly from not knowing how to be by ourselves and hence how to actually have relationships? Do we know ourselves… a lot of the evidence points to no, we don't know ourselves, we have problems having conversations let alone relationships and we are so plugged in to being connected without actually experiencing the connection… I wonder how this week will pan out as I try be more ‘present’ and not just connected. I will strive to strive for the common good of my family and friends and colleagues.. eish let the games begin Smile

10 October 2011

I’ll wait for you…

There is this very talented artist by the name of Janette-Ikz ok I’m not sure if that’s her name because there are a lot of alliterations of her name “Mysterious Genetics = MissTerious Jannte-Ikz” and her poem “I will wait for you” is phenomenal… I am going to learn it to use for our TOB rallies, talks and retreats because it is so powerful… all credit to Janette-Ikz of course  and the good Lord for blessing her with such awesome talent

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“I WILL WAIT FOR YOU” BY JANETTE IKZ

So it seemed that it was cool, for everyone to be in a relationship but me.
So I took matters into my own hands, and ended up with him.
Him who displayed the characteristics of a cheater, a liar, an abuser, & a thief.

So why was I surprised when he broke into my heart?
I called 911, but I was cardiac arrested for aiding and abetting,
Cause it was me who let him in…
Claiming we were “just friends”.
It was already decided for me by the first date, that even if he wasn’t!
I was gonna make him ‘The One’
You know, I was tired of being alone.
And I simply made up in my mind, that it was about that time, 
So I decided to drag him along for the ride,
Cause I was always the bridesmaid & never the bride.
A virgin in the physical, but mentally just a grown woman on the corner in heat!
Who was tired of the wait!
So I was gonna make him ‘The One’.
He had a… form of Godliness… but not much.
But hey, hey I can change him! So (honey) I’ll TAKE him, I mean he’s close… enough.
Ready to sell my aorta for a quarter, not knowing the value of its use to me.
Arties so clogged with my will, it blocked His will from flowing through me.
So, I thank Christ that His blood pressure gave this heart an attack,
That flatlined my obscured vision, put me flat on my back
Through my ignorance He sawed,
Through my sternum He sawed & cracked open my chest
To transplant Psalm 51:10
A new heart & a renewed right spirit within!
So now I fully understand,
Better yet I thoroughly comprehend,
How much I need to wait… for You.
See, the bad thing is that I knew he wasn’t you from the beginning..
Cause in the beginning was the Word
And he didn’t even sound or shine like Your Son
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks,
And all he could whisper was sweet, empty nothings –
Which meant NOTHING.
He couldn’t even pray when I needed him to,
Asking him to fast would be absurd!
So forget about being cleansed & washed with water through the Word…
But I know You.. 
You were already praying for me.
Even never having met me,
Let me assure you, I will wait for you.
I will no longer date, socialize or communicate with carbon copies of you
To appease my boredom or to quench my thirstiness I have for attention
And short-lived compliments from ‘sorta kindas’.
You know…. 
He ‘sort kinda’ right, but ‘sorta kinda’ wrong?
His first name LUKE,
His last name WARM.
I, I won’t settle for false companionship
I won’t lay in the embrace of his arms,
Attempting to find some closeness,
But never feeling so far apart cause, I just wanna be held
Cause ”all I gotta do is Say” No!
No more ‘almost sessions’ of ‘almost coming close’
Passing winks & buying drinks,
I’ma, I’ma, I’ma flirt!
Who flirts with the ideology of,
‘Can you just tell me how much I can get away with & still be saved?’
NO more.
I’ll stay in my bed alone, and write poems, about how I will wait for you. 
He won’t even come close,
Our fingers won’t even interlock
We won’t even exchange breath
Cause I have thoughts that I’ve ‘saved as’ in a file that God has only equipped you to open.
I will no longer get weighted down,
From so-called friends & family talks,
About the concern for my biological clock
When I serve the Author of Time.
Who is NOT subject to time,
But I’M subject to Him,
He has the ability to STOP, FAST FORWARD, PAUSE, or REWIND at any given time…
So if we could role play,
You would be Abraham & I would be Sara
Or you can be Isaac & I can be Rebecca – a servant’s answered prayer
I am bone of your bone, flesh of your flesh,
Made up of your rib Adam!
And once we meet, like electrons
I will be bound to your nucleus, completely indivisible atom.
We even speak the same math: 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, which really equals 1 if you add Him.
We were all created in His image,
But you have the ability to reflect, project & even detect the Son.
If I were to explain what you looked like,
You would have to look like a star,
A son of the Son..
I would gain energy simply from the light on me.
I would need you , in order to complete my photosynthesis
I await your revelation, but once again from the genesis, I will wait for you.
And I will know you… because when you speak I will be reminded of Solomon’s wisdom,
Your ability to lead will remind me of Moses,
Your faith will remind me of Abraham,
Your confidence in God’s Word will remind me of Daniel,
Your inspiration will remind me of Paul,
Your heart for God will remind me of David,
Your attention to detail will remind me of Noah,
Your integrity will remind me of Joseph,
And your ability to abandon your own will, will remind me of the disciples,
But your ability to love selflessly & unconditionally will remind me of Christ.
But I won’t need to identify you by any special Matthews or any special Marks,
Cause His word will be tatted all over your heart.
And you will know me, and you will find me,
Where… the boldness of Esther meets the warm closeness of Ruth.
Where the hospitality of Lydia is aligned with the submission of Mary,
Which is engulfed in the tears of a praying Hanna.
I will be the one, drenched in Proverbs 31… waiting for you.
But to my Father, my Father who has known me before I was birthed into this earth
Only if you should see fit…
I desire Your will above mine,
So even if you call me to a life of singleness,
My heart is content with YOU – the One who was sent.
YOU are the greatest love story ever told,
The greatest story ever known
You are forever my judge & I’m forever Your witness
And I pray that I’m always found on a mission about my Father’s business
Oh, I will always be Yours!
And I will always wait for You Lord, more than the watchmen wait for the morning
More than the watchmen wait for the morning…
I will wait.

19 September 2011

Theology of the body in SA!!!

And I’m back… after a bit of hiatus and it’s because I am bursting! Bursting with evangelical sprit and wanting to share everything I learnt this weekend. We were highly blessed to have Jason Evert here in South Africa and we were hosting him! Well specifically MA our TOB mentor and we went around with him to the school and different parishes as he gave his talk “Romance without regret” and even though I’ve heard it all before it came at a time when I needed to hear it again... and again and again...

What I specifically needed to hear was that I am NOT too fussy, that I deserve the best because I am a daughter of God, that the Lord has a plan for me, that I should seek the Lord in all things and the details will be taken care of, that if I run after God I will not need to go hunting of this “perfect spouse” (no such thing)… all I'll have to do is look to my side and see who is running with me…and to work on becoming the spouse I want to get, to become the woman of God that God wills me to be Smile. I'll be posting a lot on what struck me most soon.

On my amazon wish list is this book that Jason and Crystalina wrote called “How to find your soul mate without losing your soul”… and I have been telling myself I’ll buy it… then Jason came with copies and I never had cash on me… finally got the cash and just plum forgot and then it was too late coz I was singing in the band so when I got to the back the books were finished arrggghhh!!! So I still need to get the book and here he was autographing them too…well I got the “Pure womanhood and Pure manhood” books autographed so that’s ok. Here is a clip they did quite recently on their book

                      

30 August 2011

10 May 2011

TOB Tuesday: Meaning of Original Solitude

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Been a while ha… what with Easter Monday being a holiday and last Monday as well because of Workers day it’s been a while. And I had missed the one before that because of vigil dance practice… the things I do… sigh.

Anyway today was a good session… Yes ‘tis still Monday but this will only get published tomorrow so ‘tis still TOB Tuesday post. We are now at Chapter 5 in Man and woman He created them which is all about the Meaning of Original Solitude.

MA highlighted that we need to delve into and understand that there was solitude before there was unity… and why this is important. The unity we understand, so where does the solitude come from?

“Moses allowed you to divorce … but in the beginning it was not so”… so we are still in the beginning. And in the beginning man and woman were not together… or where they? MA explained something I’m still finding a bit difficult to comprehend; that as told in the creation story “man” as in mankind was created, and man imaged God, but man was not male nor female… man was… man. Man was mankind and as such embodied both male and female sexuality not one or the other. So when ‘Adam’ is put to ‘sleep’ only after he awakens is he male and there too is now Eve, female. Note the quotes ‘Adam’ in quotes is generally ‘mankind’.

Lets explain. So everyone put in quite a lot of info so this again is précis of all that was said.

For the intention of a relationship there needs to be two entities, we need at least another for a relationship to be possible. God is relational in that He is 3 persons. He created us in His image but we are not 3 persons in one. So how and when do we reflect God’s image…? Always but more so and more perfectly when we are in unity, then we mirror the communion of persons – a true reflection of God. “Let us create man in our own image” i.e “Let us create a communion of persons that reflects us” thus making man always relational.

Thus ‘Adam’ was not just man but mankind. Through carrying out God commands to till the earth and name the animals ‘Adam’ reaches self actualisation and realises that he is different from the animals and he longs for a deep communion with someone like himself (or should i say itself mmm). In that solitude Adam  realise that he needed God. this is true for all mankind. In solitude we get closer to God, we ‘find’ God and begin to know ourselves better, we self actualise. We realise that we are called to communion and relationship.

So after the ‘sleep’ Adam is reawakened, in a sense ‘reborn’ as two, Isha and Ish, (Adam and Eve in the English translation). This name change is significant for only after the ‘split’ the creation of woman form the rib is there male and female. Their maleness and femaleness of man is only evident after the creation of Ish. As man we only complete each other through the definition of our sexuality, that is mankind has sexuality and one cannot be without the other, both are needed for there to be mankind.

Then we began wondering so was ‘Adam’ not a perfect creation, if he was humanity why did he need to split into male and female, and did God not know this as he created Adam, or He did and …and what about free will is it truly free if God knows what is going to happen and it’s a plan He has set in motion… how's a plan free will and…? yeah we digressed… but we did come to some important points. Like the bible shows us the reasons such as it is not good for man to be alone we need communion with each other… it does not show us the ‘thought processes’ of God as such.  Free will is not about God laying His plan and we having to conform, for we sure can go astray. It’s about us making a choice for the good, a choice to love. A choice. And this ‘splitting’ of Adam (mmm beginning to sound a bit schizoid) is the introduction of choice… the beginning of free will for then man began to choose to love… to choose to complete a perfect union of giving and receiving thus truly reflecting God, truly reflecting and sharing in love…for love ain’t love till ‘tis chosen freely right?

MA explained that the call to evangelise is the call to reflect God in our lives so that people can say gee-whiz coz we will be reflecting ultimate love. MdK gave a simple analogy I loved. See God as a teacher and us as little kids. As a teacher He knows what we need to do in order to pass, i.e. to study, to concentrate, to attend lessons, but He cant do it for us. As a diligent teacher He will give you all the help you need, the tutorials, the prompting, use techniques to make you see and understand why it is better for you to work towards passing… but the work still has to be done by me. Just because He can see that you are going to fail does not mean He will pass you regardless… it will hurt when He sees you wasting time and throwing away your books but He will continually keep showing you the right way. So it is in life, the Lord puts all sorts of cues for us to be reminded of our path and of His will. And that path leads to ultimate joy when we align our ‘free will’ with His ‘divine will’.

MA then gave this titbit from Christopher West, that when we think of Adam and Eve think of their perfect relationship with God before the fall which mirrors the perfect love of God. ‘Adam’ was created for a perfect relationship. that is mankind was FIRST created for relationship THEN for conjugal union. God created relationships as a communion of persons before ‘male and female’ were in being. Therefore when people talk of sex before marriage being a non issue or being for pleasure alone, remember this: we were created for relationship and communion before sex, so let our relationships follow the same path, great relationship and friendship before conjugal relations…. Adios… for now Smile

8 May 2011

Happy Mothers day MOM!!!

And I also got mothers day messages. from guides! LOL.

And Fr J gave the mothers in church wooden spoons… he says not for spanking mind you.

They came with an inscription.. about the others giving spoonfuls of love, joy, patience etc… and then he played this YouTube clip that was gorgeous. Love our liberal Padre.

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5 May 2011

Gambiza!

Yay my sister in law Eve is here! So we can get to know her and what can I say doug cleans up his act real nice when she’s around… for that alone she’s a saint LOL. Welcome Gambiza!

doug n eve

24 April 2011

Easter Triduum- The Vigil

I spent the whole day at church. from dawn to way past dusk. Choir practice from 8:30 till 12. Dance practice after that…. yes there was liturgical dance and my trad soul still cringes that I took part. And then of course the vigil after a bit of warming up voices and muscles, and excitement all around. we started with the liturgy of the word then after the readings we danced to Our god is an awesome God. Then during the liturgy of the Light I sang the Exultet with Emille. It was beautiful. This is the version we sung…

An then the catechumens got baptised. Oh what a glorious sight. Fr. J had a plunge pool so he baptised them alright buckets of freezing water and all. And then we helped them all process in and they got confirmed… with the slaps of course Smile It was wondrous. It was festive. For

HE IS RISEN!!!!

AND HE LIVES FOREVERMORE!!!!!

23 April 2011

Easter Triduum -Good Friday

The Good Friday services were inspired. Truly! Liberal that he is Fr. J had the stations of the cross up on the screen – scenes and clips from the passion nochal… and here I thought this Easter I had not had a chance to watch the Passion. It was all the important bits… the way of the cross… the via dolorosa. And I surprisingly missed the kneeling. I find it therapeutic and it reminds me that He suffered great pain for me. I was all alone though, was the only one to wake up and nya was at work.
Then there was the 3 o’clock service… All our tiny crosses that he had given us for lent had been used to make up the big cross. and in dramatic Fr. J fashion he nailed a couple more on there during the service… he emphasized how we are to lay our crosses with Jesus, how we are to carry the for the Christian life is one of suffering before the dawn, of allowing Jesu to help us carry our crosses. We are born of the cross. We die with Christ so we can rise up with him…
Now we wait not in despair but in hope for we know he rose again…

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21 April 2011

Easter Triduum–Maundy Thursday

 

… and a song that Sr. Sturmia taught us was sung today –

“The Lord Jesus, after eating with His friends,

washed their feet and said to them

Do you know what I your Lord has done to you?

I have given you example that so you also should do”

Padre talked about service and it was profound and we renewed our commitments to our ministries… guess who stood up ore than once. He talked about how we are all called to be feet washers, to realise that ours is a life of service to the body of Christ

and then we went to wait and watch. a grotto type of garden had been created in the hall were they placed the Host. and it was adoration at its best. another of Sr. Sturmia’s finest…

My soul is sad

My heart is breaking tonight

Could you not watch and comfort me until night

I am alone surrounded only by night

Could you not watch one hour with me?

So we wait… and watch…

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12 April 2011

Sexual-education in schools

 

And here is a plug for a book read by someone (MA?) in the TOB group that may be brilliant. It explains what children are being taught in sex-ed and why it is all so wrong. It’s called “You teaching my child what?” by Miriam Grossman who is a physician so she should know what she it talking about.

TOB Tuesday: Creation of Man

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We have gone to the beginning, and there we find the creation of man. Two accounts nochal, one is Elohist and the other Yahwist. We learn that the second account is the earlier one, the Yahwist account as it uses the name Yahweh. the first one is from the Priestly tradition using the name Elohim, thus more thought out and revealing of God’s nature. We learn that the earth is created for man by God, for man to go forth and subdue it and procreate. Man is created at a pinnacle time, not in succession like the rest of creation but after God took a pause… “Let us create man in our image, in our likeness” (Gen1:27).

The Elohist account, the more mature one, defines man according to his relationship to God – as an image of God – thus not as of the world – not as a mere creature but like God.  We image God in that we have reason, intellect and will and our spirit likens God’s spirit. He breathed into us the spirit of life after forming us from dust, from nothing. So even though we have bodies… and boy do we have bodies… we cannot be reduced to just our bodies. It is an objective account, giving fact – created male and female, in the image of god and sent forth to be fruitful and multiply.

Then there was a whole bunch on incontrovertible metaphysics that lost me… something about ‘being’ and ‘good’ being convertible… oh well LOL

Then we shared – about sharing in the inspiration. We should not worry so much about how far we are from God and heaven that is the ideal and just because we are far we should not think we have failed. does one aim for distinction or just  pass –> hopefully for distinction. We need to study scripture to get to a point of ”I cant live this on my own, I need God” the point of salvation, where the human and the divine meet. We live heaven everyday by calling out “God  I need you, I am a sinner” so the text helps us for it gives us another standard, God’s standard and the world baseline is not the standard. And we can show other this standard, this truth by living it and not harping about it and bashing it in.

You cant have compassion without truth, but you can teach the truth compassionately

Having an abortion after rape does not make it better, it’s a double trauma, and why emphasize on the sin of homosexuality more than on alcoholism? When it comes to premarital sex and homosexuality both are wrong though the former is true to the attribute of who we are it is still morally wrong. Homosexuality also then also has he extra attribute of being disordered; even is society tries to tell you that there is no difference whiter or not i have sex with a male or a female. So why are others born homosexual, blind etc… to show the greater glory of god, just likes this weeks gospel were Jesus heals the blind man.

Then someone asked how we can be compassionate when we meet ‘evil’? how do we show compassion when there is paedophilia, alcoholism, murder? We are all made to love, willing the good of the other, and if one you loved lived a way contrary to their own fulfilment and happiness we could do our best to bring them out of it. Our obligation as Christians is to be a light to the world, to hold up to the nations the light of Christ through our love not our judgement. We need to tell the world the truth so they know it. MG gave an analogy of poison in the cup. He said if there is poison in a cup on a table and there are 3 persons A, B and C. ‘A’ knows its poison and will not drink it no matter how pretty attractive of good smelling it is or whatever promise of euphoria it promises. ‘B’ knows its poison and drinks it anyway coz it tastes oh so good and cannot resist the temptation of ecstasy. C does not know its poisons and drinks it because it tastes all so good. Will not both C and B die? They will regardless of whether or not C knew it was poison it will still kill him. So it is with sin, just because it looks oh so good, is oh so pleasurable does not matter how you dress it up… its wages are death. And ‘A’ should do his best to let ‘C’ know that it is poison, not in a  judgemental way in a compassionate way… now there's a doozy!

How do we teach the truth without saying “In the bible it says” how do we not bible bash. Henri Nouwen is a philosopher and I have his name in my notes so if what I a attributing to him is false let me know. He says … saying “In the bible it says” is not Catholic. we live in a protestant country influenced by protestant thought. the bible only came into being 400AD or so.  so how did the apostles and disciples teach and evangelise before then? They went out and argued the common sense about the truth of Christ. So we argue thus when it comes to TOB, that we have infinite dignity because we are created in His image therefore no one has the right to take that life away. We use natural law to help us present a reasoned argument of what is morally right and wrong. We use the truth because the truth speaks to the heart.

Like the apostles drew from the resurrection power of Christ and went out to make disciples so too should we draw from His resurrection. Mass, prayers, spiritual reading are all ways of nourishing our reserves and of allowing ourselves to draw from the resurrection experience like the apostles did. The bible is not a manual of how's but a nourisher to allow for reasoning and to come to a conclusion. But then if we all decide a conclusion what is law? Because our reasoning is all different? Then what is the word of God? Reasoning will go wrong without the Holy Spirit and without nourishment, its the truth of God that the Holy Spirit guarantees – and the gates of hell will not persist over it. There is only ONE story of Jesus Christ, not 2, not 20, not thousands; one story of Christ and the resurrection and the WHOLE story is within the WHOLE bible.

Moral of today’s session: We all have the capability to love and hence that is our universal calling.

5 April 2011

TOB Tuesday: What is meant by beginning?

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So we are finally beginning the long journey of going through “Man and Woman he created them: A theology of the Body” by John Paul II. I wonder if it will take us 5 years too LOL. Hey this tome is huge.

Session one begins by exploring “What is meant by the beginning?”. Why the focus on the ‘beginning’?  JPII’s talks begin as the bishops are preparing for a synod on “De muneribus familiae christianae” - The duties [or role, gifts, tasks] of the Christian Family. This has been fundamental from the beginning a phrase Jesus uses when talking about marriage, and to figure out why He appealed to the beginning we analyse scripture.

We see the beginning referring to Genesis, to the two creation accounts written there. How man and woman were created by God, in His image and how they will leave mother and father to become one. When chatting to the Pharisees in Mt 19, He brings this out and emphasises how in the beginning we were created thus, quoting a scripture well known. He then goes on explaining that divorce was only instituted because of the hardness of mans heart for in the beginning it was not so. That god’s intention was very decisive, that waht He joined in union, no man could sperate… and this was from the very beginning. So we will delve into this beginning to discover what it menas to us today and how its affetcs our lives and families.

MA mentioned that JPII was an ethicist, he was concerned a lot with what one aught to do and how our actions fit in with Divine Law, Natural Law and Moral Law. For instance how do we reveal contraception as a violence against human nature? As human we like to judge issues on a case by case basis, e.g what if she was raped, what if the child will only live 1 month in abject pain… but we are reminded not to involve ‘cases’… not to try and change the law to suit us, but to love first and not judge first. We are called to go to the beginning to original man; authentic man, true, real, genuine, true to God’s plan, without sin, true to love. We are to be reminded that Love is gift and we image God in that gift….

Now to learn how to image :)

31 March 2011

is it irresponsible to trust God too much…

… that is the title of Jen’s post over at Conversion Diary. And it touched me to my core. Why because I have issues trusting God. I mean I trust God, I do but I don't TRUST God. I used to work with a guy who is training to be a pastor now and he used to say “I don't get sick, because I trust the Lord to never allow me to be sick, I walk in His presence and since sickness is of the devil I will never get sick if I trust in God….” and that used to, and still does scare me.

I trust in the Lords provision but that does not mean I will not work for my food and rent etc., I trust the Lord protects us but that does mean I’ll walk in dodgy areas at night, I trust in the Lord’s love and that it is sufficient for me, but that does not mean I don't worry about earthly love and if I will ever be found by ‘the one’. image

But Jen’s post is on another level. She expands on how she thinks trust in the Lord hinges on

  1. Who God is
  2. What God wants
  3. What the meaning of life is

It’s the second one that I find major challenges with. Discerning what God wants; being under the mantle of His will. Because if I am doing His will and following my purpose then He will provide for all I need right there. Trust would be so easy if I just knew His will. I trust His will true, but not knowing it makes that trust an active challenge each and every day.

So go over there and read her thought and peoples comments on whether it  is irresponsible to trust God too much.

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11 March 2011

7 Quick Takes Friday

 

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Decided to 7 quick takes on what I am hoping to be doing for Lent

1. I hope to do the Divine Office

2. I hope to attend daily mass

3. I hope to fast on Fridays and Wednesdays

4. I hope to practice this: “Set a guard, Lord, before my mouth, a gatekeeper at my lips”

5. I hope to go for weekly confession

6. I hope to meditate more on the Lords will and seek it

7. And to be more pleasant

hopefully it ain’t too difficult….

For more 7 Quick Takes, be sure and stop by Jennifer's Conversion Diary.

9 March 2011

ash wednesday 2011

ash wednesday 2011

Have a blessed Ash Wednesday everyone. Its only just after 1.00 pm first hunger pangs have passed waiting for the next wave LOL and we had vespers last night at St johns! not sung mind you but vespers none the less…progress!!!!

TOB Tuesday: Is TOB practical in todays world?

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So we had our last pre-lent TOB session last night and it was fun. We had a debate. Yes a debate. MA noted that most sessions we always touch on how we actually want to live the ‘TOB life’ and how that can be difficult as we are in the world – not of the world but in the world. So we split up into groups, one for TOB and one against it being practical in our lives. And of course I was for TOB – blegh – against would have been so much easier. I am just going to highlight some of the points brought up by people (super edited of course) admittedly some were hilarious and said in jest but in todays world people are actually crazy like that.

Against:

  • por.nogr.aphy  hurts no one, is healthy and helps to support poor porn-stars, it’s an economy that will always be there
  • sex before marriage is like a test drive- one needs to have sampled the merchandise, and it ensures the couple is sexually compatible, thereby balancing the emotional and physical aspects of a relationship
  • and we are going to get married anyway
  • it’s ok to explore ones sexuality and in a committed relationship its ok because its a safe environment to explore ones sexuality
  • the world is over populated and as such NFP is wrong and irresponsible as it depletes resources and it’s un-natural to abstain
  • its ok to use contraceptives to stop the spread of disease, especially if you are prostitute because soliciting is your job
  • God gave people the means and ideas for contraceptives and after all it is ‘my body’
  • people are happier when they live together and a verbal commitment is just as good as a written one, it also has less hassles if they decide to separate as they do not need to go through the process of divorce, and this is good for the children who then will not go through the trauma of a divorce
  • we cannot condemn hom.ose.xu.ality because we all need someone to love and if one is mad that way who is it for Christians to condemn, because God says we must love not judge
  • there is no harm in dancing or dressing provocatively, it’s just expressing yourself, just to feel good and to be self confident. it’s not a girls fault if a guy cant keep his eyes to himself or control his base urges. We should not be ashamed of showing what God created
  • and we need to move with the times, what worked long ago does not work now
  • why do we not womyn priests, because they would be less likely to molest and abuse little kids
  • masturbation is just by yourself and frequent eja.culation is good to reduce testicular cancer, it does not harm anyone and is a good stress reliever

and For:

  • TOB is the truth and no matter how difficult it is it leads to happiness, deep down in everyone's heart is a desire to love and be loved authentically
  • it speaks to the dignity of out bodies
  • the por.nogr.aphy industry feeds human trafficking and child por.nogr.aphy which does affect our society
  • overpopulation is a myth with a few societies using up the bulk of the worlds resources, some western societies will soon be facing under population
  • por.nogr.aphy objectifies women and men, which translates to lack of respect of ones dignity e.g. who wants their mother, daughter, sister treated as dirt? then why treat other women that way?
  • sexual attraction is normal and a gift but it has its time and place where it can be truly transcendently beautiful,
  • contraception, masturbation and po.rn have destroyed the fabric of society, where prostitution becomes a valid job and yet half of these women have to be stoned to carry out their ‘job’, where divorce and lack of commitment are the norm, where children do have parents but adult parental units who want to be their ‘friends’
  • how does premarital sex contribute to ones happiness as a person, in light that no true commitment is there and love may not even be present? most people delude themselves that they are happy in this situation whilst their hearts cry out for true love
  • abstinence is the best way to prevent sexually transmitted diseases
  • the Lord tell us to do a lot of things which we ignore or we listen to the devil, just because we can do something does not mean it is from God and even good things can be used in an evil way, whilst science n itself is not evil, what it can be used for may be evil
  • the priesthood is about fatherhood and engendering life so by natural law women can not be fathers, and hence cannot stand in persona-Christi and become priests
  • relationships are made stronger with common goals, priorities, communication and understating, not with premarital sex
  • going through adversity and challenges strengthens relationships and builds character, such as abstaining together for a greater good
  • we do not live in a bubble were our actions do not affect others, so dancing and acting provocatively will affect others and is not just about you, and the message it send is that you are available and want all eyes on you
  • NFP is all natural and does not introduce poisonous chemicals into our bodies, it follows the natural cycles of a women's body and strives to understand better how our bodies work
  • artificial birth control has been known to cause depression, obesity, blood clots and even death
  • even condoms cannot prevent disease a hundred per cent
  • research ahs shown that a husbands semen ma be beneficial to a woman pre – during and post pregnancy – nature working at its best

OK so I have to admit that the ‘for’ side was not well articulated and it just seems difficult to put into practical terms everything about our dignity and the deep hunger within us and morality.

MA gave us a précis highlighting that when talking to non Christians it is possible to impart TOB principles by focusing on morality dignity and respect. As Christians though we need to focus on where we are headed not where we are. we need to learnt that pain and struggle are a part of life, and she noted that one of todays main problems is a lack of parenting, that parents do not allow their kids to wait or be denied so as adults that have not learnt any restraint. its the life of a junky, what makes me happy now, I want that, I get it… oh no a low is coming what next to get me that high again. its about instilling morality, just because I have ring on my finger will not stop an affair, my conscience has to have been formed by some morals for me to know that that would be wrong. and how do we form our consciences, they have to be formed in the Truth, the mass, catechesis, scripture and prayer. If this is not in place the next question would be what was my intent, for instance what is the moral code in self defence.

MA then sent a little not per email that I thought summed it all up:

“Just as a last word:   instead of trying to answer in a self-righteous way in defence of TOB which puts others off, we can try to work from a moral framework that encapsulates just what John Paul is saying. (he uses the framework – or hermeneutic – of GIFT)

What is  this framework: (bearing in mind what I said about Morality as choosing between good and evil and what is meant by ‘good’)

We are all made for love – we are all looking / searching for love;  very often what we think is ‘love’ is the counterfeit i.e. it doesn’t grant us the happiness and joy we thought we’d get from it – instant pleasure, maybe, but lasting happiness – not usually.

How do we love?  By making a total gift of ourselves because if we don’t, we risk objectifying the other or being objectified and who wants that?

So with all the issues  that the no.2 team brought up last night, in light of this framework,  can you think why they are ‘not right’ or why they are not fulfilling and don’t lead to true happiness? 

Give this some thought!”

Next week we have a guest speaker Dr Heinz (every time I say his name I think of baked beans Smile) who is an NFP fundi will give us an NFP talk.

See you all then Smile

4 March 2011

7 Quick Take Friday

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This week 7 Quick takes is being hosted by Betty Beguiles… and my deluge has somewhat continued….

1. Our exploded oven is still not fixed… arrrgh

2. Still haven't been to confession… but spiritually things are on the up and up

3. My car went in for repairs – they had said I would not get it till next week… I threw a hissy… I am getting it in a couple of hours

4. Still wont manage to teach Shona this week… maybe move my classes to Sunday

5. On a happier note at young adults this week we were talking about God’s will and then we moved to training our consciences… and Mari posted about it here…

6. I just want to sleep, I’ so sleepy I am practically sleep walking but…

7. …I am going to Kontiki this weekend with the Guides and Rangers and Scouts… and I’m already tired… and i know sleep will be scarce. the theme this year is Rome… and this is my first Kontiki…

For more 7 Quick Takes, be sure and stop by Betty Beguiles.

1 March 2011

TOB Tuesday: Marital Spirituality

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So yesterday was the last of the “Into the heart series” by Christopher West. It focused on marital spirituality. he expressed this spirituality by saying that the couple who are now one body open up that body to the indwelling of the spirit of God, and thus become an expression of loving as God loves. It’s about opening up to the a gift that makes men and women who they are called to be. He then extrapolated this to Christian life in that all Christian life is called to marital spirituality as the bride of Christ. And a direct mirror of this is the Eucharist where as the body of Christ we open up to receiving the life given us by His flesh and blood.

He then touched gain on contraception how every act of intercourse should be opening to saying "’Lord let your will be done’ just as we want to say it in every other aspect of our lives, to surrender our fertility to the Lord, and to safeguard the unity of the unitive and procreative love in marriage, that authentic love is oriented towards every true good.

Given were 3 ways to live this life:- prayer, the Eucharist and penance. He explained that prayer can progress as genuine dialogue of love to the point of rendering the person wholly possessed by the divine, by the Holy Spirit to the point of where the way we would move think and have our being would be drawn straight from the heart of God – and i found that intense… to be be holy spirit possessed would be to let the spirit do what He wills and to let my self partake in his will… were trusting God comes in… and we have already established how difficult that is… but not for lack of trying.

The Eucharist is the sacrament of the bride and the bridegroom, were we as church open up to receive the life of the bridegroom, and penance leads to healing.

One part of penance which has been impressed upon me lately he explained so well, that regular confession of venial sins helps to form our conscience, free us from concupiscence and be healed by Christ and progress in the life of the spirit--- purgative, illuminative and unitive. Our standard should be perfection were we strive to it even if the Lord s happy with us and loves us were we are He wants more for us, His love compels us to continue on the journey to holiness.

C.W also stated that one other way of staying true to the path of purity is of throwing ourselves under Mary’s mantle – totus tuus- like JPII. Now this for me was a new way of expressing why we honour Mary, that as the mother of Jesus her womb gave Jesus flesh and form; as such we encounter Jesus through her womb, that we want to model ourselves in the image of Christ and what better way than to use the mould that formed Him?

So as the virtue of chastity/ continence is essential in living TOB these ways can help us and guide us for by ourselves we will likely fail, we have to embrace self mastery, which is difficult and and a long and exacting process but through it we can experience joy through suffering; agony and ecstasy… maybe like Jesus on the cross

The sacrifices of chastity do not impoverish our expressions of love, they make them more intense….

25 February 2011

7 Quick Takes Friday…

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Ok so the last time i did 7 takes a a while back… as in way back nearly a year… but this Friday I just had to….it’s been a deluge… as in it doesn't rain it pours… no it doesn't pour its a downright deluge, kind of deluge….

1. Our oven exploded image

2. Had bad days at work the whole week, and haven't gone to confession and because I’m not in a state of grace haven’t communion in 12 days…. not good – i’m old school like that

3. My car went in for repairs – they said it would take 10 days… 10 days!!!! so i wont be able to teach Shona this weekend

4. I had a mini accident … which i cant afford – whilst driving nya’s car… wanted to cry – of course the car i was driving is fine… the other car will need work…

5. I received another speeding ticket in the mail… tripled because I’m a foreigner…. i now owe over R3000 in ticket fines over the space of two weeks… for person who never got speeding fines i must be wanting to break a record or something.. and these tickets are from the end of last year and of course i’m only getting them now

6. My pm says i’m playing games and leave work in a a huff

7. We now owe so much money…  i think i’m gonna play the lotto… and the siblings all want to do things that will drain us… i cant even pay into our stokvel…

For more 7 Quick Takes, be sure and stop by Jennifer's Conversion Diary.

24 February 2011

TOB Tuesday: Humanae Vitae

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OK so this post is late Smile kinda got busy then forgot and then… oh well. again this follows our weekly Monday discussion and we are using Christopher West’s Into the Heart series.

So the session focused on Humanae Vitae, Pope Paul VI's encyclical of human life. We went into what it covers that it focuses on the problems of birth regulation, that they separate the bossy from the soul, that it focuses only on the biological aspects of a hum which is by no way nearly enough. it outlines how God gave us the law of life as our inheritance.

we are called to responsible parenting , which does not mean rendering the sexual act sterile  -> which would  be a violation of the sacramental sign of marriage – that it be both unitive and procreative. The unitive part most of us understand and Christopher west explained that the very nature of the communion within the conjugal ac, activates the process in which God has chosen to bring forth human life! Again here we are partaking in the great creative glorious power of the Lord, and this, THIS is the method He chose!!! when the unitive and procreative meanings are separated there is no union of persons and who would one that in a one flesh union?

When we deprive the conjugal act of this very inner truth, it also ceases to be an act of love. we spay and neuter ourselves which just serves to say that we cannot control ourselves and have reduced ourselves to the level of base animals. Artificial Birth control is not in keeping with human dignity – self control is the only birth control that is keeping with human dignity.

One other point I found fascinating was that the seed of the man is not just biological fluid, it is the very essence of the masculine soul, which i think infers it is the essence of fatherhood. Yesterday evening we went to another talk which was centred on Humanae Vitae and the speaker mentioned that every time a mans seed was spilt it was a potential of fatherhood, every single time, there is never a time when one could say oh well only at certain times… its every time, so it matters not what contraception is used, because only abstinence is 100% effective, each act should be treated with the responsibility of fathering and mothering, it has to come with the understanding that there is a possibility that this act will result in a child even if it 0.01%. But humanity has decided to do away with that, to take responsibility out of the sexual act, to make it an act of lust, of using.

This does not mean the church want everyone to have 100 babies, as for a man every act is fertile this is not so for women. The Church says for just reason spouses may abstain from sex, it is not a obligation to have sex, and spacing children according to needs and circumstances is a couples duty. CW said the church here is elevating biology the level of love, for what we do with our bodies we do with our spirits and sexuality has never been just biological so why treat it thus? Its about receiving the gift of a couple periodic infertility (through a woman's cycle) from God than grasping infertility for pleasure and to try and separate our bodies from our spirits.

Yesterdays talk, (boring though it was) had some marvellous points, the speaker said that artificial birth control is like biochemical violence that take s over a woman's body and programs it from her natural ebbs and floes into a fixed 28 day cycle, that is any other medication had caused as many deaths and side effects as this one has, it would have been banned long ago, but not the pill; after all people cant control themselves, have a right to pleasure etc. and they should not be punished with a baby…

I pray for a new understanding of how rejecting humane Vitae has affected our church, of understanding that self mastery is a good thing, of understanding how abstinence is not only practical but a great party of chastity no matter which vocation or stage of life and for living pure and holy lives. Now none of this is possible without the grace of God, so dear Lord, shower your grace upon us….

21 February 2011

my oven door exploded!!!!!!!

yep it did… as in kaplooi kaboom!!! so much for being fixed!!! ‘nuff said

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19 February 2011

valentines soiree!

so we had one at church on Friday for WYD fundraising and nya and i were to bake cakes… which we did and they really liked the way one looked, heart shaped with chocolate glaze so they auctioned it!!! for R400 rand nochal!!!! and the other one, caramel peaks,  Father J. stole from the team as they were eating it…

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and i wore my sari! any chance i get hey Smileand here i am in it with my dear new friend mari!!!!!

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18 February 2011

my soul proclaims

the greatness of the Lord!!!

There is this beautiful site called mysoulproclaims.com, which is like a video blog of the vocations within the catholic church, and i chose the one on marriage first of course Smile

final exam!

imageYay!!! i am finally finished with my honours exams! and I have no plans to do my masters…at least not in information systems… now to wait for the results… there is one paper I’m not too confident I did well so I’m praying to the Lord that the markers be lenient Smile

15 February 2011

TOB Tuesdays: Valentines

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I though the song of Solomon would be most appropriate for todays TOB Tuesday post. and I chose Chapter 6 because of the verse 3 “I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine…”  and it felt apt for celebrating valentines. Love poetry at its best…

1“Where has your beloved gone,
         O most beautiful among women?
         Where has your beloved turned,
         That we may seek him with you?”

2“My beloved has gone down to his garden,
         To the beds of balsam,
         To pasture his flock in the gardens
         And gather lilies.

3“I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine,
         He who pastures his flock among the lilies.”

4“You are as beautiful as Tirzah, my darling,
         As lovely as Jerusalem,
         As awesome as an army with banners.

5“Turn your eyes away from me,
         For they have confused me;
         Your hair is like a flock of goats
         That have descended from Gilead.

6“Your teeth are like a flock of ewes
         Which have come up from their washing,
         All of which bear twins,
         And not one among them has lost her young.

7“Your temples are like a slice of a pomegranate
         Behind your veil.

8“There are sixty queens and eighty concubines,
         And maidens without number;

9But my dove, my perfect one, is unique:
         She is her mother’s only daughter;
         She is the pure child of the one who bore her.
         The maidens saw her and called her blessed,
         The queens and the concubines also, and they praised her, saying,

10‘Who is this that grows like the dawn,
         As beautiful as the full moon,
         As pure as the sun,
         As awesome as an army with banners?’

11“I went down to the orchard of nut trees
         To see the blossoms of the valley,
         To see whether the vine had budded
Or the pomegranates had bloomed.

12“Before I was aware, my soul set me
Over the chariots of my noble people.”

13“Come back, come back, O Shulammite;
         Come back, come back, that we may gaze at you!”
      “Why should you gaze at the Shulammite,
         As at the dance of the two companies?

8 February 2011

TOB Tuesdays

imageOk so I'm beginning a new thing on my blog –> TOB Tuesdays. On Mondays we have our TOB meetings at MA’s house were we basically watch a vid discuss it, talk about what happened in our weeks relating to TOB, act at being theologians and socialise.

So I’m going to be writing what we would have talked about, what I found profound etc. on Tuesday! hence TOB Tuesdays!

Hence here is instalment one:

We watched Christopher West’s series ‘Into the heart’ and yesterdays vid was the one on the Song of Songs and the marriage of Tobias and Sarah. So one of the parts I found profound was the mentioning of eros and agape. He said god loves us not only with agape but also with eros, that Jesus is the agape of man and the eros of God. And a whole bunch of us were like but how?

We hashed it out and the following conclusion based a lot on what he said and how we have experienced love and TOB came through. It is an understanding that we experience everything through our senses. He says the Song of songs witnesses to a love that is physical and divine, sensual and spiritual… our physical senses can awake our spiritual senses, bringing us to a tasting of God, hearing god, feeling God, seeing God…. that is experiencing the love that is God in all our ‘bodiliness’, that God reaches down into our vocabulary of sensual love in order to elevate in us the understanding of a great love that is God, for us to understand how w e can burn with love for the divine. Jesus came to awake the sensual ( i.e. that which we feel with our body senses) love of our lives in order that we  can fully experience the spiritual love in our lives. And this culminates in bring in that extra essence of holiness in the conjugal embrace that we have talked about, that we begin to transform sex from something that is worshipped to it being worship of the glory of God, that marital love is a liturgy, an act of worship of God.

Another part we found ‘deep’ was that the essence of love is sacrificial and not always about what do I get. It’s about what we give, the giving of all, being ready to do everything in order that good may conquer. imageTobias and Sarah's marriage showed that great pain may be involved within a marriage and highlights how we can’t live without God’s mercy. In Him we live and move and have our being. They prayed for their marriage and were in one accord with God, with no lust between their love.  So Lord we surrender all and pray Tobias’ prayer for our future spouses:

“Blessed are you, O God of our fathers; praised be your name forever and ever. Let the heavens and all your creation praise you forever. You made Adam and you gave him his wife Eve to be his help and support; and from these two the human race descended. You said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone; let us make him a partner like himself.’ Now, Lord, you know that I take this wife of mine not because of lust, but for a noble purpose. Call down your mercy on me and on her, and allow us to live together to a happy old age.”

Amen and Amen!

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dry season…

...spiritually that is. I have been having problems praying... i mean last year i imagehad gotten to a rosary a day a divine mercy in there family prayer and was working my way up to morning devotion. But it's all gone south somehow. so i need to get out of this dry season funk that i'm in and i was blog surfing instead of studying.. as usual.. and i came across two posts. one is 7 Reason I Stink at Praying over at NCRegister, and i got 6 out of 7, maybe 7 out of 7 coz when have i ever lacked pride. The main ones are that I am lazy to the point of being slothful sometimes, I am a thinker, I get super distracted and everything seems honkey dory in control right now. There is so much i should pray for and i have every intention of doing so, but the prayer is very nearly none existent or very distracted if i’m not saying it aloud in some group or the other.

At TOB yesterday we did the son of songs and the marriage of Tobias and Sarah and i read out Tobias prayer, he was so in touch with what the Lord willed. and i need that to be in touch to know what He wants, but i’m very nearly apathetic at the moment it would be scary if not for the apathy.

and the other post was by Fr. Longenecker called The Problems With Possession. closer to the bottom he mentions that the first demonic level is temptation and the second level is obsession. to say i have an addictive obsessive personality well… lets say its goes without saying. the apathy does not help much and when the temptation comes… and yes it comes… it’s not even a struggle to say no coz it seems like i don't even try to say no… i accept it for the temptation it is and all my Jedi temptation fighting techniques i put on the side and just give in to the temptation.

so it made me realise that not only do i need to pray, but to try and overcome these 7 reasons that make me stink at it. i mean i don't wanna become demon possessed now do i…

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27 January 2011

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how gorgeous is this pic??!?!?!

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abortion is growing…

I love Fr. Barron and here he touches on a topic very close to my heart… of note is the information on spreading contraceptives to Africa so as to halt the spread of AIDS…

7 January 2011

new elements on my blog....

have finally added the 2nd sidebar.. after a making a thousand and one errors still a bit of tweaking to do but this is enough for now :) ciao

4 January 2011

my 2011 patron saint - St John of Kanty

i was blog surfing as usual and Jen at conversion diary has this saint generator on her page and i thought why not and voila! I have a patron saint for the year St John of Kanty... boy is he humble and patient and... yeah St John pray for me!
 

So after clicking first I got  St John of Kanty... and thought who's that?... saw the link to click for another saint so I did... after clicking the learn more about St John link of course... as I read the  info on him the following quote just popped out at me..."Fight all error, but do it with good humour, patience, kindness, and love. Harshness will damage your own soul and spoil the best cause."

... and so I closed the other saint I had opened up coz I sure need the patience and good humour bit :) He is totally perfect and my brother just came to live with me and is job hunting so he is so fitting...

10 December 2010

Catholic pick up lines

Which I found here...
I just found them totally hilarious! LOL


1. Confess here often?

2. Did you feel what I felt when we reached into the holy water font at the same time?

3. You've got stunning scapular-brown eyes.

4. I bet I can guess your confirmation name.

5. Let's get out of here. I know a much cozier little Catholic bookstore downtown.

6. You don't like the culture of death either? Wow! We have so much in common!

7. What's a nice girl like you doing at a First Saturday Rosary Cenacle like this?

8. Sorry, but I couldn't help but noticing how cute you look in that ankle-length, shapeless, plaid jumper.

9. Hi there. My buddy and I were wondering if you would settle a dispute we're having. Do you think the word should be pronounced HOMEschooling, or homeSCHOOLing?

10. May I offer you a light for that votive candle?

11. You don't have an accountability partner? Me neither.

12. The Bible says "Give drink to those who are thirsty, and feed the hungry"; how about dinner?

13. You look so beautiful in that mantilla you wear to Mass

14. Want to go to Adoration with me?

15. I didn't believe in predestination till I met you.

16. Man does not live by bread alone. So how about dinner and a movie?

17. What do you think Paul meant when he said, "Greet everyone with a holy kiss" (1Pet 5:24)?

18. A little bird... the Holy Spirit actually... tells me we should get to know each other a little better.

19. Do you need help carrying your Bible? It looks heavy.

20. What are your plans for tonight? Feel like a Bible study?

21. Hi, this pew taken?

22. My prayers are answered.

23. What's a charismatic like you doing in a mainline place like this?

24. Don't worry, I'm attracted to you purely in a spiritual way.

25. What's your name and number so I can add you to my "prayer" list?

26. Has anyone ever told you, your eyes are like doves and your neck like the tower of David

27. Oh you are cold, Ecclesiastes 4:11.

28. You have the body of Amy Grant and the soul of Mother Teresa.

29. Am I the only one who sees the sign of the beast in the Volkswagon logo?

30. Read any good Bible passages lately?

31. Wow that grey/black ash smudge on your forehead, vaguely resembling a cross, really brings out the tones in your skin.

32. You know Jesus? Hey, me too! (from Brittney Quirk)

33. God told me to come talk to you. (from Brittney Quirk)

34. How about a hug, sister? (from Brittney Quirk)

35. Would you happen to know a Christian man/woman that I could love with all my heart and wait on hand and foot? (from Brittney Quirk)

36. Do you believe in Divine appointment? (from Brittney Quirk)

37. My friend told me to come and meet you, he said that you are a really nice person. I think you know him. Jesus, yeah, that's his name. (from Brittney Quirk)

38. You look like a good vocation (from Stephen Bonnette)

39. I lost my rosary, can I use your fingers? (from David Napoli)

40. Hey ... I don't want to embarass you but your Scapular strap is showing. So ... how long have you been wearing that? We should discuss the Sabatine promises over a 40 hours devotion sometime. (from Robert Klesko)

41. You're so fine, you're divine! (from Thomas F. Varacalli)

42. “It’s Palm Sunday, may I hold your palm?” (from Walker Solis)

43. “A girl like you only comes along once in a Blue Army meeting.” (from Walker Solis)

44. At a charismatic assembly: “Slain here often”? (from Walker Solis)

45. Presenting a rose: “I just may be the answer to your Little Flower novena.” (from Walker Solis)

46. Thumbing a rosary: “How ‘bout joining me for a few decades?” (from Walker Solis)

47. “Me, I prefer a more traditional Mass. I’m a regular Latin lover.” (from Walker Solis)

48. “You look like (an officially approved) apparition!” (from Walker Solis)

49. “You’re a saint! Kiss me, and make me a second-class relic!” (from Walker Solis)

50. “If loving you’s a heresy, consider me anathema!” (from Walker Solis)

51. "Where did you find such an exquisite St. Christopher medal?" (from Jennifer Salame)

52. "Can I hold your hand during the Our Father?"
(from Alyssa Collins)

53. "My Guardian Angel thinks you are cute"
(from Aaron Russell)

54. "Let me get your number; I know this great place to go to on Sunday mornings. They have the best wine!"
(from Chad A. Dubiel)

55. "Wedding and onions always make me cry. Which do you like better: onion rings or wedding rings?" (from Walker Solis)

56. "You must be the eighth wonder of the world because I'm smack dab between seventh heaven and cloud nine right now." (from Walker Solis)

57. "Is that a new perfume or the odor of sanctity?" (from Walker Solis)

58. "So YOU'RE the third secret of Fatima?!" (from Walker Solis)

59. "In the dark void of this world, could you be my luminous mystery?" (from Stephanie Adams)

60. "Dinner. My Place. Tomorrow. Don't argue; it's a feast of obligation." (from Ben Cohen)

61. If I had a bead for every time I though of you, I'd have a joyful mystery. (from John DeLozier)

62. My sacred heart of Jesus statue started beating faster when I saw you! (from Corrie Christiaansen)

63. I love that new Benediction Incense scent on you. (from Alexa Schuele)

64. hey.. do you wanna take the church van for a spin?
(from Corrie Christiaansen )

65. You are like the book of Revelation. You've got me all confused. (from Christa Masson)
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